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 Post subject: 454 rebuild?
PostPosted:Mon May 15, 2017 12:03 am 
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Small Block

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Car Details:1970 Camaro SS 454
Hi guys,
Just bought a 70 camaro ss with a 454 in it. It burns oil pretty bad and found oil on a spark plug. Do i need to get it restored/rebuilt asap? Does anyone know anyone in the Bristol area who could have a look at it for me?
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 Post subject: Re: 454 rebuild?
PostPosted:Mon May 15, 2017 9:37 am 
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Car Details:'79 Camaro, 350 V8
Location:South Bucks
Take my thoughts with a pinch of a salt :) It could just be valve stem seals. Not sure how much you know about engines, so apologies if i'm insulting your intelligence here... valve stem seals are accessed by taking the rocker covers off and sit on the top of valves, under the rocker arms. They're a gasket stopping oil from going down along the valve and into the combustion chamber. This could likely be the issue and it means no rebuild require, just a bit of a service :)

The valve stem seals are relatively inexpensive (each one is about the size of the rubber at the end of a pencil) and can be done with the engine in situ, just need a tool that compresses the valve spring, designed for use with the engine in the car. There's a few vids on youtube on how to do the whole thing, as a rough guide - what you do is start with cylinder 1 and take the spark plug out, set cylinder 1 to TDC or BDC (whichever one leaves the springs at minimal compression, can't remember), either use compressed air with an adapter into the the cylinder (this holds the valves up and stops them dropping in when the spring is taken out in the next step) or thread some nylon rope through the spark plug hole which fills up the cylinder to stop the valve falling through. Then you use the tool to compress inlet valve spring (or outlet), undo the nut on the rocker arm, take the rocker arm off, use the tool to decompress the spring completely, take the spring off, slide the valve stem up, quick clean around the valve stem, put on new valve stem, do the same on the so that both valves are done on the cylinder, then put spring back on, compress with tool add nut, set valve lash and when it's all done, remove nylon rope / compressed air, put spark plug back in and then it's all done. Then repeat 7x times. Or alternatively pay someone to do it :) But what's more fun than a day of cursing and and oh sh*t moments.

Hope that helps!

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 Post subject: Re: 454 rebuild?
PostPosted:Tue May 16, 2017 10:08 pm 
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Big Block

Joined:Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:06 pm
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Car Details:1971 2nd Gen Camaro
RS, 350ci auto
Location:Devon
Good advice given! Sounds most likely to be honest, the 454 is pretty bullet proof normally.

Out of interest was that the black on on eBay recently? Looked stunning and was a good price if it's the one I saw. Steel cowl hood, RS with the 454 in. Very nice!


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 Post subject: Re: 454 rebuild?
PostPosted:Tue May 16, 2017 10:28 pm 
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Joined:Sun May 14, 2017 8:04 pm
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Car Details:1970 Camaro SS 454
Thanks for the good advice guys! Yes it's the one off ebay.

My plan is to join the camaro meet at the end of May, hopefully find some nice helpful people like you to help me diagnose and maybe even fix it :)


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 Post subject: Re: 454 rebuild?
PostPosted:Wed May 17, 2017 6:49 pm 
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Big Block

Joined:Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:00 pm
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Car Details:Couple of '70 Mustangs
Could be the inlet manifold sucking oil in from underneath if it's been fitted badly, hopefully it will just turn out to be something simple like that. Not overfilled, is it? Easy enough to diagnose but not over the 'Net. HTH
Cheers, Martin

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 Post subject: Re: 454 rebuild?
PostPosted:Thu May 25, 2017 8:17 pm 
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Big Block

Joined:Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:45 am
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Car Details:1981 Camaro Z28
Location:Essex
..."if" it does need new rings and its not the valve stem seals, this is a wonderful opportunity to extract more power/increase reliability via a stroker kit :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: 454 rebuild?
PostPosted:Thu May 25, 2017 9:27 pm 
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Joined:Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:48 pm
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Car Details:68 pontiac firebird coupe project car,my aim is a street friendly,lightly modified pro.touring style.
Lowered ,mild body mods,400 cu in SBC engine, Muncie 4speed, 10 bolt posi axle,disc front drum rear.
68 firebird convertible ( long term project) Stock resto/mod style ,400 pontiac th350
For easy rebuild keep it mostly stock but with a mild street performance cam = torque monster with easy to live with manners.
For more money change the crank and build an old skool 427 with a hotter cam and performance heads , properly built you will be awed by the performance from low down to 6000 rpm !


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