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Author:  Mdetre [Mon May 15, 2017 12:03 am ]
Post subject:  454 rebuild?

Hi guys,
Just bought a 70 camaro ss with a 454 in it. It burns oil pretty bad and found oil on a spark plug. Do i need to get it restored/rebuilt asap? Does anyone know anyone in the Bristol area who could have a look at it for me?
Cheers

Author:  78 Camaro [Mon May 15, 2017 9:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 454 rebuild?

Take my thoughts with a pinch of a salt :) It could just be valve stem seals. Not sure how much you know about engines, so apologies if i'm insulting your intelligence here... valve stem seals are accessed by taking the rocker covers off and sit on the top of valves, under the rocker arms. They're a gasket stopping oil from going down along the valve and into the combustion chamber. This could likely be the issue and it means no rebuild require, just a bit of a service :)

The valve stem seals are relatively inexpensive (each one is about the size of the rubber at the end of a pencil) and can be done with the engine in situ, just need a tool that compresses the valve spring, designed for use with the engine in the car. There's a few vids on youtube on how to do the whole thing, as a rough guide - what you do is start with cylinder 1 and take the spark plug out, set cylinder 1 to TDC or BDC (whichever one leaves the springs at minimal compression, can't remember), either use compressed air with an adapter into the the cylinder (this holds the valves up and stops them dropping in when the spring is taken out in the next step) or thread some nylon rope through the spark plug hole which fills up the cylinder to stop the valve falling through. Then you use the tool to compress inlet valve spring (or outlet), undo the nut on the rocker arm, take the rocker arm off, use the tool to decompress the spring completely, take the spring off, slide the valve stem up, quick clean around the valve stem, put on new valve stem, do the same on the so that both valves are done on the cylinder, then put spring back on, compress with tool add nut, set valve lash and when it's all done, remove nylon rope / compressed air, put spark plug back in and then it's all done. Then repeat 7x times. Or alternatively pay someone to do it :) But what's more fun than a day of cursing and and oh sh*t moments.

Hope that helps!

Author:  jon_buss [Tue May 16, 2017 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 454 rebuild?

Good advice given! Sounds most likely to be honest, the 454 is pretty bullet proof normally.

Out of interest was that the black on on eBay recently? Looked stunning and was a good price if it's the one I saw. Steel cowl hood, RS with the 454 in. Very nice!

Author:  Mdetre [Tue May 16, 2017 10:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 454 rebuild?

Thanks for the good advice guys! Yes it's the one off ebay.

My plan is to join the camaro meet at the end of May, hopefully find some nice helpful people like you to help me diagnose and maybe even fix it :)

Author:  sportsroof [Wed May 17, 2017 6:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 454 rebuild?

Could be the inlet manifold sucking oil in from underneath if it's been fitted badly, hopefully it will just turn out to be something simple like that. Not overfilled, is it? Easy enough to diagnose but not over the 'Net. HTH
Cheers, Martin

Author:  The Seer [Thu May 25, 2017 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 454 rebuild?

..."if" it does need new rings and its not the valve stem seals, this is a wonderful opportunity to extract more power/increase reliability via a stroker kit :clap:

Author:  firebird68 [Thu May 25, 2017 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 454 rebuild?

For easy rebuild keep it mostly stock but with a mild street performance cam = torque monster with easy to live with manners.
For more money change the crank and build an old skool 427 with a hotter cam and performance heads , properly built you will be awed by the performance from low down to 6000 rpm !

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