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PostPosted:Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:14 pm 
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Car Details:I own a 1969 Camaro Project Car, hoping to complete a first time restoration.
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I recently purchased a full wiring kit for my 1969 Camaro. However the terminals that require crimping need 'special' AutoWire crimper's (as I'm told) apparently I need Single and Double wire crimper's as listed here: http://www.americanautowire.com/shop/cr ... -clip-6747 however as you can see they are very costly and that's without shipping and import taxes etc etc. I would be extremely grateful if anyone could direct me to anywhere I could buy these in the UK, or something similar. Here is a video of the exact terminals I need to crimp as demonstrated by the American AutoWire guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u_EkMsioMY

Anything of use will be much appreciated,

Kieran


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PostPosted:Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:19 pm 
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They don't look like anything special to me, cheap ratchet crimpers from Maplins or flea bay would do the job well, I have crimped literally millions of terminals of all sizes and styles in my life and have never heard of "double wire crimpers" before , get some cheap ones(ratchet ones will ensure you get a tight even fit) and have a practice if your concerned, if you want belt and braces get a cheap soldering gun/iron and use that on any you are uncertain of

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PostPosted:Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:25 pm 
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I thought the same as I have set of http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0001K9TCE/r ... PYH4JMF4PC and http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-35574-Ra ... y_60_img_y and none of them do the required task, they just crush the pins rather than 'curl' them into a neat job so that they fit into connections smootly instead of having to force them in.

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PostPosted:Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:46 pm 
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Don't forget that auto manufacturers began using crimp connectors simply to save money. No lines of workers needed to solder the connections on permanently, crimping was good enough for the concept of built in obsolescence :silent:

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/Terminals.html

http://www.autorewire.com/tech/article/ ... Terms.html

If you do solder I would suggest some shrink wrap over the solder joint. Much stronger than the crimped wire strain relief.


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PostPosted:Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:51 pm 
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Thanks Neil great help and info.

Much appreciated


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PostPosted:Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:43 am 
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I can the "benefit" of that tool, it just speeds things up a tiny bit. Based on the tools you've got, i would say it's not worth it. I've crimped terminals like that with the cheap non ratchet style. In fact, that's the only crimp tool i've used in 15 years. I always do the 'tug' test, once you've crimped, tug a bit on the wire to see if it moves / comes loose from the terminal. If not, you're all good. I can't see any big benefit in the roll over that the tool makes other than it looks nice.
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Don't forget that auto manufacturers began using crimp connectors simply to save money. No lines of workers needed to solder the connections on permanently, crimping was good enough for the concept of built in obsolescence
Sounds about right!

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PostPosted:Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:48 pm 
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Thanks 78,

I did some research and I managed to find a cheaper solution my self http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002 ... ge_o00_s00 these will curl them over neatly and for the fraction of the price for what AAW were going to charge so I could not resist!

Appreciate the advice,
Kieran


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